No more ‘Charlton Lido’? Tell us what you think

Charlton Lido - August 2012
Charlton Lido – August 2012

UPDATE 24th SEPTEMBER 2013: Mark Sesnan, MD of GLL, has left this comment in the thread below:

Dear Charlton Champion,

I am pleased to be able to inform your readers that GLL has discussed the naming of the Lido further with the Council and we have agreed that there needs to be more consultation as to what is the best name for the new facility.

GLL’s preference is now ‘Charlton Leisure Centre and Lido’, thus retaining Charlton in the name, but being clear that it is ‘more than’ just a Lido, but we are happy to hear other suggestions, however, as the owners and the people making the millions of pounds of investment and the organisation that actually has responsibility to make it work, GLL will of course make the final call on the name.

We very much appreciate the level of local interest in the Lido and hope that this will be reflected in patronage when we are fully up and running.

As soon as we have the relevant information we will let you know the plans for opening the new facilities in the new year and what date the pools will be back up and running in the Spring. Meantime, the pool will stay open until the end of October half term and a timetable leaflet is available at the Lido or on the web. Kids for £1 will run throughout this period.

Lets all look forward to a Charlton success story (in the Royal Borough of Greenwich – of course!).

Mark

Mark Sesnan
Managing Director
GLL (Greenwich Leisure Limited)

Many thanks to all who have supported our campaign asking GLL and Royal Borough of Greenwich to rethink their lido renaming plans – those who’ve signed the petition, RT’d our Twitter feed, spoken to their councillors, and so on – it’s clearly an issue that’s provoked strong feelings in SE7 and beyond. The decision’s not been finalised yet, though, so please: sign the petition, pass it on; and let us know what you think of GLL’s new proposal in the comments below.

 

UPDATE 21st SEPTEMBER: We’ve launched a petition asking GLL and Royal Borough of Greenwich to rethink the renaming: wecallitcharltonlido.co.uk. Please take a moment to sign it!

This week’s Greenwich Time reports that the council is changing the name of Charlton Lido (or Hornfair Lido) to “Royal Greenwich Lido”.

What do you think?

UPDATE: Twitter user @Juptin reports that ‘Royal Greenwich Lido’ signs have started to appear:

So far this site has had no confirmation from the council as to whether any public consultation has taken place regarding the renaming.

Will Charlton road changes give you the hump?

Greenwich Council 20mph zone map

Big changes are on their way to a big chunk of Charlton’s back streets – if they affect you, what do you think of them?

Hundreds of homes were sent consultation packs last week about making the area between the A102, Charlton Road, Charlton Church Lane and Woolwich Road into a 20mph zone. If you got one and it came as a surprise, you weren’t the only one – it’s understood local councillors weren’t aware of the plans, either. (If you haven’t had one, call the council on 020 8921 3804.)

“The Victoria Way area has been identified as a priority,” says the accompanying letter, citing 21 accidents in three years, one causing a serious injury.

Furthermore, work is planned for the railway bridge on Victoria Way to protect the narrow, weak footway from vehicles mounting the pavement.

The documentation is supposed to be on the council website, but – surprise, surprise – it’s not on there. I’ve asked when it’ll be uploaded and will link to it when it is.

Here’s what’s planned for the Victoria Way 20mph Zone

Speed humps on nearly all roads within the area (apart from the no-through roads and those that already have them).
– Installing 20mph roundels at key points, and removing existing road hump warning signs since they won’t be needed.
Repainting faded road markings.
– Giving northbound traffic priority on the Victoria Way railway bridge, adding a new 7-foot width restriction south of the bridge, introducing a 3-tonne weight limit (it’s currently 6 tonnes) and installing guard rails and raised kerbs between the roadway and the pavement.

20mph zones are slowly being adopted by London boroughs – indeed, streets around Charlton Lane, as well as in Blackheath and east Greenwich were made 20mph zones some years back. More recently, Greenwich Council has become keener on the idea and plans gradually to make all residential roads 20mph zones. The key reason’s safety – if you’re hit at 20mph, you’ve a better chance of surviving. But 20mph zones tend not to be actively enforced by police, who say the surrounding measures mean they tend to be “self-enforcing”.

Another concern is the speed humps themselves. Humps with shallower rises are promised, providing a smoother ride for both motorists and cyclists. But with the humps also affecting streets on the 380 bus route, has Transport for London been consulted? (Existing humps on the bus route section of Victoria Way are more like raised tables.) And will residents have to put up with the scrape of speeding cars’ exhausts as they bash against the humps?

On the other hand, is this just too weak a solution? You could dispense with speed humps and cut rat-running by closing off short sections of each road to all except pedestrians, buses and bicycles – something that’s been done successfully in the borough of Hackney.

As for the works on the railway bridge – would a guard rail add to clutter?

Lots of questions, and I suspect there’ll be a variety of answers. What do you think?

Cruise ship passes in the night

Silver Cloud cruise ship goes through Thames Barrier at night

Rob Powell of Greenwich.co.uk has been keeping an eye on the river…

The cruise ship Silver Cloud passed Charlton on Sunday night on her outward bound journey after a one-day stay in the river’s Upper Pool by Tower Bridge.

With just a friendly security guard for company, I was at the the Thames Barrier at about 01:30 – just as it started raining – to see the 157m vessel pass Charlton and transit through London’s iconic flood protection gates.

The late night trip down the Thames was the beginning of a 10-night cruise of Northern Europe on the Silversea-operated ship with Leith the next scheduled stop on Tuesday afternoon.

Other cruise ships to sail past this year have included The World, Fram, Deutschland and Hamburg. Still to come in August and September are FTI Berlin, Seabourn Pride and MS Europa.

Cruise ships should become an even more common sight around these parts when the promised redevelopment of Enderby Wharf on the other side of Greenwich Peninsula eventually takes place.

There have been predictions that there could be 100 cruise ship arrivals at the proposed terminal every year, although restrictions on the size of ships coming through the barrier mean the world’s largest cruise ships won’t be able to make it to Enderby’s.

But despite recent announcements on progress, and suggestions cruise ships may start arriving there next year, it’s perhaps worth noting that there appears to be a lack of available cruises to book now which have the new terminal in their itinerary despite the fact cruises are commonly booked 1-2 years in advance.

Champion readers may be interested in a website I run with lots of photos from the river called ThamesPics.co.uk

Is the 380 bus getting a little too close for comfort?

380 bus

The 380 bus route, wiggling its way through the back streets of Charlton, is a lifeline for many residents. But for some, it’s been getting a bit too close for comfort. A couple of weeks ago, Clare dropped me a line to ask…

“A parked car was hit by a 380 bus this afternoon outside my house on Woodland Terrace, the back bumper was taken off the car and there is red paint all over the side of the car. The bus driver didnt stop so having spoken to the police its unlikely that they will be pursuing it any further.

“This is the third incident of a 380 hitting a parked car along my road so just thought it might be interesting to hear if other residents have had similar issues?”

Longer buses have been used on the route in recent years, including the five hybrids which now ply the route – but are some corners just too tight for them?

Fancy a green-fingered trip to Hatfield House?

Hatfield House

Free on Wednesday? Want to visit one of the country’s most impressive gardens? Here’s Aeron Allen with an offer you might be interested in…

I understand that some of your readers are probably interested in horticulture. With that in mind, I am chairman of a social group in Charlton Triangle Homes.

Because of a clerical mix-up, we have a number of spare tickets for a coach trip to Hatfield House & Gardens. The price includes entry & coach for £10. This trip leaves Marlborough Lane at 9am on 31st July, leaving Hatfield House at 4.30pm. If anyone is interested, please contact me – sorry, no children.

If you’re interested, give Aeron a call on 0789 110 0514.

Charlton Horn Fayre – Sunday July 28th

Charlton Horn Fayre banner
Charlton Horn Fayre photo by Nikki Coates

The Horn Fayre takes  place at Charlton House this Sunday, 11am – 4pm, and promises “traditional children’s rides and races, dog show, beer tent, music, food and much more”.

It is a shame that this year’s event has seen so little publicity, but we’re told that it was nearly cancelled (due to a clash with the Armed Forces Day event), so perhaps should be grateful that it’s taking place at all. It is to be hoped that the plans to include Charlton House in a new borough-wide Heritage Trust will give future Horn Fayre events a boost

Speaking of Charlton House, it appears that their website has been refreshed. It looks like a work in progress at the moment,  but given that there was practically no information about the Horn Fayre online until the last couple of days – and the old website hadn’t been updated this year – this looks like a positive development.

Enjoy the Horn Fayre if you’re going, and tell us what you thought of it in the comments below!

Charlton Community Gardens – dates for your diaries

ccg

A note from Charlton Community Gardens on upcoming activities at their Charlton station plot:

This week on Thursday 25 July from 5 til 6 pm we will be spreading some wood chips on the paths. If you can make it, please bring along any tools you would like to use, especially spades, rakes and even wheelbarrows!

Future dates for your diary:

Sunday 1 September at 2 pm – a working party to clear the end area before the raised beds arrive. Please wear stout shoes, bring gardening gloves and tools if you have them.

Sunday 8 September at 10 am – another working party to finish off stump clearing and litter picking. Again please make sure you’re protected from any sharps in the soil with boots and gloves. We do have gloves and tools for you to borrow.

Wednesday 11 September from 10am – filling the raised beds with soil/compost

Thursday 12 September from 6pm until sundown – planting up the raised beds.

To get in touch with the gardeners, email charltoncommunitygardens [at] gmail.com.