Charlton Lido refused premises licence after neighbours’ petition

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Months of poor communications with members and neighbours caught up with Charlton Lido’s management on Monday when Greenwich Council refused permission for a premises licence which would have enabled the lido to serve alcohol and hold live events.

GLL, which runs the lido, wanted a licence to hold members’ events as well as to hire it out for “book signings, film launches and art exhibitions”.

But neighbours got up a 94-name petition complaining about disturbance from events already held, and claiming that their complaints to GLL had been ignored.

Backed by Kidbrooke with Hornfair councillor Norman Adams, they claimed there had been “no communication” before events were held. Others complained about sleepless nights and even disturbance from the lido’s current operation during the daytime.

A Greenwich Council licensing sub-committee concluded that GLL “displayed an inability to manage the premises while holding events”.

“Whilst the Lido management had significant experience in managing leisure centres it was not felt that the applicant had demonstrated that they would be able to manage licensed events and uphold the licensing objectives. The Sub-Committee were of the opinion that the nature of the venue meant that even a small group of people would cause a disturbance. Whilst a number of conditions had been proposed the Sub Committee were not satisfied based on the evidence given by the applicant that events could be properly controlled,” the council’s decision notice reads.

The setback for the lido follows a string of avoidable problems caused by poor communications with members, including short notice changes to opening times, a “customer forum” that hadn’t been advertised to customers, and last year’s short-lived decision to rename the facility “Royal Greenwich Lido”.

GLL now has three weeks to decide if it wants to appeal against the decision and take the case to a magistrates’ court.

Morris Walk and Maryon Road redevelopment – find out more

Morris Walk Estate
It’s been something we’ve completely missed at the Charlton Champion – the demolition and rebuilding of the two council estates at the eastern edge of Charlton, Morris Walk and Maryon Road, together with Woolwich’s Connaught Estate, under the slightly misleading banner of One Woolwich (the website which explained more about it has vanished from the internet).

If you live nearby and want to find out more, there’s a drop-in session this Wednesday evening at Greenwich Council’s offices in Woolwich. As the flyer says…

Regenerating Connaught, Morris Walk & Maryon Road/Grove Estates

The regeneration on the 3 estates has now commenced; Connaught Estate has been handed over to the developer Lovell and in November 2013 the re-housing of tenants and buy-backs of leaseholders on Morris Walk phase 1 commenced, with a temporary housing scheme in place prior to the properties being handed over.

The whole scheme will take over 13 years to deliver. The current indicative timescale for demolition & development of the estates is as follows:

– Connaught Estate: 2014 – 2022

– Morris Walk: 2019 – 2027

– 55 – 213 Maryon Road (odd numbers only) & 1-92 Maryon Grove : 2023 – 2026

To find out more about the scheme, the implications for you as a near neighbour of the scheme, and to ask questions of RBG, Lovell and Asra, we have scheduled a drop-in for:

Wednesday 8th of October at the Woolwich Centre, Wellington Street, Woolwich, SE18 6HQ, 7-9pm

If you live on the estates or nearby, it’d be good to hear your view on the plans.

Charlton Lido wants an alcohol licence – but its neighbours aren’t happy…

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GLL has applied for a premises licence to allow ‘the Supply of Alcohol (on sales only), provision of live and recorded music (Indoors only) Monday to Sunday from 11:00 hours until 23:00 hours‘ at Charlton Lido, with the application to be heard on October 6th.

An overview of the application can be found here, and details of objections raised are here. The deadline for representations was 16th September.

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But a 94-name petition has been submitted objecting to the application, along with 11 individual objections – pointing to some dissatisfaction amongst the lido’s neighbours over a number of issues, principally parking, noise, and the attitude of the lido management towards residents.

Do you live in the streets around the lido? Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

‘We Happy Few’ – new production from The Alexandra Players

News of the latest production from SE7’s amateur theatre group:We Happy Few - Alexandra Players

Thursday 30th October to Saturday 1st November
The Alexandra Players present We Happy Few, a comedy about an all-female troupe of strolling players during WWII, at the Alexandra Hall, Bramshot Avenue, Charlton at 7.45pm nightly.

“Inspired by the true wartime history of the Osiris Players, Imogen Stubbs’ comedy follows the adventures of a small group of women who come together to form a ‘girls only’ theatre company to take the plays of Shakespeare around a culture-starved Britain.”

Tickets £9 (£8 Concessions): call 07867 627987 or email alexandraplayers@gmail.com.

http://alexandraplayers.org.uk/

Charlton Lido – reduced opening hours from October

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UPDATE OCTOBER 2nd The times below have since been further amended, with the pool remaining open on Fridays, and closing on Thursdays; the cafe will also close on Tuesdays and Thursdays. See the lido website for details.

An update on the Lido website brings news of reduced opening hours for the pool through October:

The October Pool Opening hours will be as follows :

Monday 7.00am-2.00pm

Tuesday Closed

Wednesday 12.00-7.00pm

Thursday 7.00am-2.00pm

Friday Closed

Saturday 9.00am-5.00pm

Sunday 9.00am-2.00pm

 

Additionally, from this week the pool will close at 8.30pm, rather than 9.30pm, on Wednesdays.

Lido sign, photo by Steve Toole

Meanwhile, London Fields Lido (also operated by GLL) looks to be maintaining its standard opening hours year-round, while also benefiting from investment in floodlights and underwater lighting to improve evening swimming.

Customer Forum?
There’s a Customer Forum taking place at Charlton Lido on 16th September to discuss the opening hours and other issues, with the centre’s management. We’re told invites have gone out to Lido members by email, and that the event has been advertised in the reception area. This particular member didn’t receive the email, and a number of readers have reported the same, so – if you are a member – it may be worth checking that you haven’t opted out (or been opted out of) email communications from GLL.

If you can’t make the meeting, and would like to have a say, we suggest emailing charltonlido@gll.org with your feedback in advance (and let us know what you think in the comments box below!).

 

Charlton House Open House

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Open House London weekend is rolling around again, and Charlton House is opening its doors for the public to have a nose around on Sunday 21st September, 10am to 4pm. More details can be found on the Open House London website. This will be the first Open House weekend since Charlton House and related assets were transferred to Royal Greenwich Heritage Trust – hopefully the new Trust will take the opportunity to explain to visitors what it all means for Charlton House’s future.

The full list of participating properties across the borough can be found here.

(PS. There’s nothing about this event on charlton-house.org yet, but perhaps it’ll be updated once Charlton House returns from its long weekend in Woolwich).

17 hours up a tree: Burglary suspect halts Charlton trains

Police are playing a waiting game this evening as they try to coax down a burglary suspect holed up in a tree by the railway line at Barney Close.

The man’s been up there since 2am after fleeing from police following an incident at Stone Lake Retail Park.

One passer-by at the scene said the man was 32, from north London, and had tried to rob Currys.

Police have sealed off the back of Barney Close while they wait for him to come down.

All London-bound trains have been diverted, though some Kent-bound services are inching past the scene.

Here are some photos taken at about 6pm. Paramedics were seen walking to the scene at about 6.50pm and the British Transport Police tweeted that it hoped to “have things back to normal as soon as possible”.

8pm update: The suspect has now been taken down and arrested.

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