The proprietors of the Old Cottage Coffee Shop have raised a petition asking Greenwich Council to refurbish the public toilets in Charlton Park. The petition highlights the poor state of the facilities, including the lack of hot water, the absence of baby-changing facilities, and evidence of drug-taking in the toilets. Comments left on the online petition reinforce these concerns:
“These toilets are disgusting and a refurb of them is long overdue!, I dread it when we are at the cafe or in the exercise park and the kids need the loo! I’d rather they go by a tree than go in those dirty, needle infested toilets!”
“These toilets really are in a bad shape but are at a strategic location with cricket and football pitches, a 2012 legacy outdoor gym and a really popular café. All these facilities need proper toilet facilities.”
“Charlton Park is the heart of Charlton and loved by many. It is an ideal place for many activities and is otherwise very tidy and well-maintained. Sadly the lack of usable toilet facilities means you can’t stay too long!”
“Can’t believe we need to petition for usable, clean, drug free toilets in our community.”
The new gym building, replacing the old front entrance
Charlton lido’s gym facilities opened this week, with the pool expected to re-open “around Easter”. The gym and studio facilities are in a new building which has replaced the original entrance; new changing rooms for the pool have been built along the east side, though the outdoor cubicles and showers installed for the original reopening in 2012 are still in place. A cafe will open on the second floor above the gym, with ‘sun terraces’ to each side.
Opening times are currently 6am-10pm Monday to Thursday, 6am-8pm on Friday, and 9am-5pm on Saturday and Sunday. Check the official website for the latest opening times here.
The headline adult monthly fee seems to be around £54, although GLL have been advertising deals for existing customers of David Lloyd at Kidbrooke.
The lido entrance as it looked in 2010
Have you joined up, or tried out the new gym? Let us know what you think of it in the comments below!
Dates for your diary
A round-up of February events we’ve found in and around SE7. What have we missed? Let us know in the comments below or email neilclasper[at]gmail.com, and we’ll update the post as we get the chance.
15th Feb, 2.30pm: Charlton Society talk – John Beckham on ‘Wildlife in our local parks‘, Charlton House.
20th February, 7-9pm: Death Cafe at Charlton House. “Join us in the comfortable Dutch room to drink tea, eat cake and discuss life, death and what comes after!”.
26th February, 6.30pm: Global Fusion Music and Arts’ Fairtrade Fortnight Networking Event, Charlton House. “Fairtrade stalls including clothing, food, gifts, books, arts, and massage; plus dance, music and poetry – including a few songs from the GFMA singing group. Topping the bill will be the amazing Kora player Mosi Conde from Guinea – and if fancy trying your hand at drumming, Tai Chi or African dance, there will be some fun taster sessions”. Free entry. Email globalfusionarts@yahoo.co.uk.
Disclaimer: These listings are up to date to the best of our knowledge, but we advise checking details with the event organisers before attending any events.
Photo feature
Have you got a Charlton photo you’d like to share with the world? A shot of your favourite part of SE7, or a recent event? We’d love to feature some readers’ photos in our monthly diary round-up. Send your image to neilclasper[at]gmail.com with a title and – if you like – some words to tell us what the picture means to you (don’t worry: we’ll attribute the photo as you wish, and you’ll keep full control of copyright).
Could a community council help promote Charlton’s attractions more effectively?
Do you know what a community council is? It’s something you might be hearing a bit more of in the next few months, as the Government’s given a small grant to The Charlton Society to promote and explore the possibilities of handing the people of SE7 a little bit more power over their lives. So – would you want to get involved? Read on…
Parish councils were abolished in London in 1899, when the metropolitan boroughs – the forerunners to today’s London boroughs – were set up. But they still thrive outside London, as a tier below borough or district councils. They can take charge of a range of services such as community centres, open spaces, allotments, flower beds, some planning functions – whatever they want to take on, so long as their local borough or district council is happy to devolve to them.
In London, it’s been the boroughs that have taken on an increasing range of functions over the years. That can mean that many communities can feel overlooked.
But a 2007 law means that parish or community councils can now be established in London. The first is in Queen’s Park, north-west London, where elections will be held in May. There’s also an established campaign to set one up in London Fields, Hackney.
So, where does Charlton fit into this? This isn’t about declaring UDI from the borough of Greenwich. But there’s certainly a growing appetite within the SE7 area for people to get involved and make their area a better place.
Yet the current structure of local government doesn’t recognise that, while there’s been an explicit shift within Greenwich Council in the past decade or so to concentrate on the centres of Greenwich, Woolwich and Eltham. Similar funding has been granted to a campaign in Plumstead, another area where many feel overlooked.
The theory goes that a community council will be able to get Charlton punching at its weight again, and will mean local people have control over local services.
A community council could beautify streets with flowerbeds, or install signs welcoming people to the area. It could take control of council-run community halls, commission extra street cleaning or arrange volunteers, or run youth or children’s facilities.
Here’s what they’re doing in Queen’s Park: “Help for young and vulnerable people, the prevention of crime and anti-social behaviour, support for local business, as well as specific proposals including community events and the establishment of a Youth Council.”
Is this something you could get involved in?
A community council could make sure Charlton’s streets are better maintained
One thing it shouldn’t be is party political – often those who are most active in the area will have some political background, but for this to work, party rosettes and personal grudges should be left at the door. Making this happen, I suspect, will be one of the bigger challenges. Persuading Greenwich Council could also be a challenge – but the Queen’s Park campaign won over Westminster Council, which saw the advantages in having a local body to work with.
Another challenge will be making sure the council benefits all of SE7, from the estates to the estate agents’ favourite streets – and not just those who shout the loudest, or who are the most affluent or well-spoken, or live in Charlton village, or the current Charlton council ward. Current election arrangements mean it should be easy to set the council up, although there may be a very small overlap into areas of SE3, SE10 and maybe SE18.
All this will cost some money though – a community council will be able to levy a small precept on the council tax. This is likely to be only a few pounds, but would give the council a budget of, perhaps a couple of hundred thousand pounds each year. A community council would need to persuade you that it’s good value for money.
But most of all, it’d need to involve you. There’ll be a public meeting later this year to discuss the idea, and it’d need to be approved by a referendum and by Greenwich Council’s cabinet.
So would you like the chance to get involved with how your area is run – or do you think it’d just be another layer of bureaucracy? The Charlton Society’s Nikki Coates will post more about this issue at a later date, and she’ll be happy to answer any question you have. But what do you think of the idea – would you get involved?
If you heard deep bass lines reverberating in the wee small hours of the morning, then they were coming from the shut-down Matalan store on Bugsbys Way – it was being used for an illegal rave. It’s not the first time it’s happened, and there didn’t seem to be any trouble when a curious reporter went to take a look at 1.30am – just a little crowd waiting to be let in, and little knots of people strolling up to the store, which shut last month.
The same happened when the old Wickes store on Woolwich Road shut a couple of years back, and it’ll probably happen again. This area’s seen it all before, with early acid house parties taking place in a warehouse on the old East Greenwich gas works in the late 1980s. When the Greenwich Sainsbury’s closes next year, I wonder if anyone will get to hold a party there?
Matalan has now temporarily moved to the old Comet store in Greenwich’s Millennium Retail Park – there was an impressive queue of 40 or so people outside on Friday morning awaiting its grand opening. Its old site – which opened in the mid-1980s as a Texas Homecare DIY store – is being redeveloped.
It’s all part of a reshuffle and revamp of Charlton’s retail barns being carried out by developer LXB as part of the Sainsbury’s move, which will see a new store together with an M&S and other shops open on the Wickes site on Woolwich Road in 2015.
13th-19th January, 12-8pm: There’ll be a week of open days at the new gym and lifestyle club facilities at Charlton Lido. You’re encouraged to have a look around, find out how the new development turned out, and there’ll be Better staff members available to answer your questions about membership. More information can be found at Better’s website. The gym will be fully open for members the following week.
17th January, 1pm: The Bernadel Quartet – winners of the 2013 Royal Greenwich Intercollegiate String Quartet Competition – will be holding a free recital at Charlton House. The programme is: SCHUBERT Quartettsatz in Cminor D.703, PURCELL Fantasies (selection), BRITTEN String Quartet No.3 Op.94
19th January, 2.30pm: Meeting of the Charlton Society at Charlton House – the speaker will be Diana Rimel, who was instrumental in saving the Assembly Rooms for Charlton.
20th January, 6.30pm: Second meeting of the Friends of Charlton Lido at Brew and Choo – everyone’s welcome. FoCL are still in the early stages of setting up their group and would love to see as many people there as possible.
21st January, 7.30pm: The Friends of the Pet Cemetery are holding their AGM at Minnie Bennett House, 164 Shooters Hill Road, SE3 8RW. More information about their group and the meeting can be found at their Facebook page.
26th January, 8pm: Live music at Cattleya & Chu, with Gus Glen and other local musicians. 52 Charlton Church Lane, London, SE7 7AB
30th January, 7.30pm: A public meeting – NHS in Crisis – arranged by Lewisham and SE London NHS campaigners will be held in Charlton House. Speakers include Dr Jacky Davis, the co-founder of Keep Our NHS Public, and Teresa Pearce MP. Further details can be found here.
We’ve tried to round up the things we know about, but perhaps you know of something happening in Charlton that we haven’t listed above? If you’d like us to add anything, let us know – either in the comments below or you can mail me at nikki.coates[at]gmail.com.
The letter states that 460 consultation questionnaires were returned (of 3681 sent), with 75% of respondents being in favour of the proposed changes.
The first phase of work will be the installation of signage and road markings and is expected to take two weeks, after which the installation of speed bumps and cushions will begin. There will be temporary parking restrictions around the works, plus some road closures and diversions on roads which aren’t wide enough for two-way traffic. It’s not clear from the letter how long this second phase of work is expected to take, but it says residents will be informed in advance of parking and traffic restrictions.
The 380 bus will be affected once work starts on Wellington Gardens, Priolo Road and Sundorne Road: while work takes place on Wellington Gradens, eastbound buses will divert via Charlton Road; when work moves to Sundorne and Priolo Roads, westbound services will divert via Charlton Road.