Charlton should be on Silvertown Tunnel bus network, Greenwich & Woolwich MP says

An early proposal involved routing the 335 to Kidbrooke via Charlton

Greenwich & Woolwich MP Matt Pennycook has criticised the lack of a route through Charlton plans for the new Silvertown Tunnel bus network.

Transport for London indicated that a service through Charlton would be part of its plans when it applied for permission to build the tunnel in 2016.

But last year, it was announced that just two routes are set to use the new tunnel, which will run from North Greenwich to the Royal Docks when it opens in 2025.

There would be an extension of the 129 route, which currently runs from Lewisham to North Greenwich, to London City Airport and Great Eastern Quays, a housing development at Beckton.

And a new service, the X239, would run from Grove Park to Blackheath before running fast through the A102 and the new tunnel to Canary Wharf. Despite Greenwich councillors – and Pennycook’s predecessor Nick Raynsford – being among the loudest backers of the tunnel when it was proposed more than a decade ago, the X239 would just serve a handful of stops in the borough.

No services would run through Charlton, despite a possible service from Canary Wharf to Charlton Church Lane, Blackheath and Grove Park featuring in the submission to the Planning Inspectorate, and a service linking Charlton and Kidbrooke being shared with council officers.

In a letter to Transport for London, Pennycook – who has opposed the tunnel since the start – said it was “deeply regrettable” that just 20 buses per hour would be serving the Blackwall and Silvertown Tunnels, compared with the 37.5 suggested before. This includes the existing 108 service, which would be mostly unchanged.

“I am concerned at the absence of any proposed cross-river route serving Charlton,” he wrote.

“The indicative network published by TfL in 2016 included a new Canary Wharf to Grove Park route serving the Charlton community and a specific bus corridor running through Charlton to Kidbrooke and beyond was identified in Silvertown Tunnel Implementation Group documentation up until last year.

“The Silvertown Buses Supporting Document published alongside the consultation makes clear that a corridor of high demand, distinct from the Woolwich Road corridor connecting Woolwich to North Greenwich, exists “towards Kidbrooke and through Charlton”.

“Given population forecasts for the Charlton area, in particular the projected increase associated with the development of the Charlton Riverside Opportunity Area, I would urge you to give further consideration to how Charlton might be served by a new or existing cross-river route.”

The proposed bus network

TfL documentation supplied as part of a consultation into the new network said that it considered rerouting the 335 service via Charlton Church Lane and extending it to Beckton, but dropped the idea because it would inconvenience too many existing users of the route

A spokesperson told our sister site 853 when the consultation was first launched that proposals “make the best use of our resources and match the ridership levels we expect when Silvertown Tunnel opens”.

“This plan is currently just a proposal. No decisions have yet been made and we encourage people to get in touch with feedback to help us shape our plans,” the spokesperson said.

TfL’s consultation is open until tomorrow (January 11) at haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/silvertown-tunnel-bus-network.


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Government cuts hit Charlton’s trains from Sunday – your guide to Southeastern’s new service

Call in Sick graffiti at Charlton station
This advice could become more tempting for many passengers

This Sunday will see the biggest rejig to rail services through Charlton since… well, the last one. But while the last two major changes have improved services, this one reduces them.

Before the pandemic, eight trains an hour served Charlton – six Southeastern trains and two Thameslink. Now a new timetable means this will, on the whole, be cut to six – four Southeastern trains and two Thameslink.

This reduction in services is at the behest of the Conservative government, which says that demand for trains does not warrant the service levels warranted three years ago.

There was no consultation, and local politicians and councillors of all parties criticised the plans. However, they are still going ahead.

Importantly from Charlton, there will no longer be any Charing Cross services (save for one late train two nights a week). Southeastern says this is to reduce pressure at the junction at Lewisham, where services to Charing Cross, Victoria and Cannon Street meet and cross. It also says this will make it easier to add services when demand picks up.

Changing at London Bridge is easier than it used to be, but the prospect of losing a direct link to the West End has angered many passengers. Southeastern says there will be extra staff on hand to help anybody who needs it.

The long-established “rounder” services which loop from the Sidcup line are also being scrapped – a pain for Charlton fans coming to The Valley. The less useful rounders to the Bexleyheath line remain.

Lewisham trains will also stop at St John’s and New Cross – but won’t run on Sundays at all, causing huge problems for anyone trying to reach other parts of southeast London.

Charlton escapes some of the worst of the new timetable – Westcombe Park, for example, will see yawning gaps open up when it once had trains every ten minutes. But it’s hard to see how this encourages anyone to ditch the car and travel sustainably, particularly on Sundays.

Charing Cross station
There’ll be no more Charing Cross trains from Sunday

Here’s a quick guide on what to expect – it is worth double-checking all times quoted.

Weekday morning summary
Before 6.30am, there are still seven trains to central London, including Thameslink services to Blackfriars and beyond. Between 6.30am and 9.30am, where most recently there were 24 trains, there are now just 20.

What time are the new morning peak-hour trains?
0634 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0640 Blackfriars via Greenwich
0647 Cannon Street via Lewisham
0703 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0710 Blackfriars via Greenwich
0717 Cannon Street via Lewisham
(16 minute gap just as the station gets busy)
0733 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0740 Blackfriars via Greenwich
0747 Cannon Street via Lewisham
0757 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0802 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0810 Blackfriars via Greenwich
0817 Cannon Street via Lewisham
0823 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0833 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0840 Blackfriars via Greenwich
0847 Cannon Street via Lewisham
0903 Cannon Street via Greenwich
0910 Blackfriars via Greenwich
0918 Cannon Street via Lewisham
All trains go to London Bridge. Trains to Blackfriars will carry on to City Thameslink, Farringdon, St Pancras and various destinations beyond.

What about the off-peak trains?
Broadly speaking, trains will now run to this pattern off-peak and on Saturdays:
03 Cannon Street via Greenwich
10 Blackfriars via Greenwich
17 Cannon Street via Lewisham
(16 minute gap)
33 Cannon Street via Greenwich
40 Blackfriars via Greenwich
47 Cannon Street via Lewisham
(16 minute gap)
The 17 and 47 trains may run a minute or two later at odd times during weekdays, but that’s the basic pattern.

Southeastern train
There will be fewer Southeastern services overall

I’m going the other way, when are my trains?
There are big gaps in the Kent-bound service, which now looks roughly like this:
05 Thameslink to Rainham
08 Southeastern to Gravesend
14 Southeastern to Barnehurst
(21 minute gap)
35 Thameslink to Rainham
38 Southeastern to Gravesend
44 Southeastern to Barnehurst
(another 21 minute gap)

What about trains home in the evening?
Check a journey planner.

What’s with the new stops on Lewisham trains?
They will now stop at St John’s (handy for Brockley Market on Saturdays) and New Cross, where you can change for the London Overground to Whitechapel and Dalston (although the connections aren’t great unless you’re heading home and time it right).

More trains into town on weekday evenings.
Fancy an evening drink at London Bridge? One quirk carried over from the old timetable is that there’s a better service into central London between about 6-8pm with some extra trains via Greenwich slotted into the timetable. So you can travel then and remember how things used to be…

London Bridge station
Passengers will now need to use London Bridge a lot more

Last trains home from London Bridge
2357 and 0027 (0030 on weekdays, when both trains are often interrupted by engineering works).

What about Sundays?
The service is, frankly, lousy, with nothing via Lewisham.
03 Southeastern to Cannon Street
10 Thameslink to Blackfriars
(23-minute gap – might as well take the bus to North Greenwich)
33 Southeastern to Cannon Street
40 Thameslink to Blackfriars
(another 23-minute gap – have you seen the traffic? Let’s go home)

What’s this new station on Thameslink?
Keep an ear out for Brent Cross West station, due to open early next year, which is due to serve “the new park town for future London” but looks a bit too far from the shopping centre to be useful. It’ll be between Hendon and Cricklewood stations.

Where do I find more information?
Southeastern has an information page at www.southeasternrailway.co.uk

Who do I complain to?
Southeastern has a complaints page at www.southeasternrailway.co.uk.


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Can you help the Old Cottage Coffee Shop’s 2022 Christmas meal for older people?

Old Cottage Cafe sign appealing for donations

Back in the days before the pandemic, the Old Cottage Coffee Shop in Charlton Park used to invite older people around on Christmas Day for a festive meal. Then Covid struck, and they had to switch to deliveries.

This year, the Christmas meal is back. But with a month to go, café bosses Mimi and Michael need your help.

– Firstly, do you know any older people that would appreciate a meal and some company on Christmas Day? If so, drop Mimi a note via m.speak9[at]icloud.com. There’s no charge for the meal.

– Secondly, can you help donate gifts to hand out to their guests, such as toiletries or things to help them keep warm? Or can you make a cash donation towards the project? Email m.speak9[at]icloud.com if you can help.

– Finally, Mimi and Michael are thinking of keeping the deliveries going as well. If you’d like to help out on Christmas morning, then drop them a line.

Need to know more? Drop in at the café between 9am and 4pm Wednesdays to Mondays – they’ll be delighted to hear from you.


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Parents launch crowdfunding appeal to revamp primary school’s playground

Children in the playground at Windrush primary school

Parents at Windrush Primary School on Woolwich Road have launched a crowdfunding appeal to help revamp their school’s playground.

They are already a third of the way to their £10,000 target, and are appealing to their neighbours in the Charlton community to help back the appeal.

“This project is important. The school is fantastic – our children love it – but the playground is currently lacking, both in terms of play equipment and greenery,” said Anna Salmi, one of the organisers.

“We have almost 600 pupils, so improving the playground is vital for the wellbeing of a large number of local children, for many of whom the school playground is the only outside space they regularly get to enjoy and spend time in.

“We are fundraising in a variety of ways, but we really need all the help we can get. A successful campaign is crucial for making the playground revamp a reality by the end of the school year, rather than years down the line.”

You can support the campaign at crowdfunder.co.uk.


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St Thomas’ Church Christmas fair and wreath-making workshop this Saturday

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St Thomas’ Church is hosting its Christmas fair this Saturday

St Thomas’ Church on Woodland Terrace is hosting its Christmas fair this Saturday from 10am to 4pm.

There’ll be live music from The Woolwich Singers, the Crystal Palace Brass Band and classical guitarist Ellis Fox.

To raise funds for the church, there’ll also be a wreath-making workshop during the day led by Ali Edney, a professional homes stylist.

The workshop, which costs £45 a head, will help you make a “chic and elegant wreath from scratch”, with participants plied with Christmassy snacks and drinks by Angelique Glata, a professional chef.

“Rising utility costs are a challenge for all of us, including St Thomas’, and we are raising funds to keep the doors always open.” Angelique said. “Ali and I met at one of St Thomas’ community concerts and our friendship has seen us volunteering together at Greenwich’s Winter Night Shelter, at concerts and community events, believing in the warmth, hospitality and kindness that churches like St Thomas’ foster.”

Christmas fair flyer

No tickets are needed for the Christmas fair, but tickets for the wreath-making workshop can be booked through Eventbrite. For more information, contact Angelique on admin[at]moveablefeasts.co.uk.


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Discover Charlton’s tram history with the Charlton Society this Saturday

London's last trams week
Inner London’s last trams ran through Charlton 70 years ago (photo: Leonard Bentley via Creative Commons)

Charlton’s strong links with London’s lost trams will be explored in the Charlton Society’s monthly talk this Saturday, November 19th. The last trams ran 70 years ago along Woolwich Road along a route that was a precursor of today’s 177 bus. The repair works were in Felltram Way, where tram tracks remained visible until the 1990s. The trams were scrapped in a yard in Penhall Road, where remnants of the tracks still lurk beneath the undergrowth.

See how many SE London streets you can spot in this film from 1953…

The talk will be delivered by Mark James, a former Greenwich councillor who works as a project sponsor for Transport for London. It takes place at 2.30pm this Saturday at the Grand Salon in Charlton House – admission is £2 for Charlton Society members and £3 for visitors.


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Charlton Riverside housing site put up for sale by developer Aitch

Aitch render
Despite the bus, this is the view of the Aitch site from Westmoor Street

Plans for 188 new homes close to the Thames Barrier could be in jeopardy after the developer behind the scheme put the site up for sale.

Aitch Group has put the land at Eastmoor Street on the market with an asking price of £12,750,000.

The company’s first plans for homes on the Coopers Yard site were rejected by Greenwich councillors in July last year, but were approved by a planning inspector in May.

The site, behind the derelict Victoria pub, is billed as a “significant residential development opportunity” that currently generates £167,300 a year in rent, according to sales documents.

A neighbouring site, to be developed by the housing association Optivo, is unaffected by the possible sale.

There are plans to build up to 7,000 houses on the riverside, but the Aitch site is one of just three major projects to win planning permission and no work has started on any scheme so far.

Plans for a low-rise neighbourhood have been hampered by advice from the Environment Agency warnings that ground floors should not be occupied because of flood risks.

Eastmoor Street
The Aitch development site as it is now, viewed from Eastmoor Sreet

There are also fears that a shortage of land for warehouses in inner London could mean that Charlton remains more valuable for industrial developers rather than homebuilders. One site once earmarked for homes – the VIP Trading Estate off Anchor & Hope Lane – has been bought by a company specialising in logistics hubs.

Representatives for Aitch and the company itself have not responded to requests for comment.

Optivo, which plans to build 67 homes for London Affordable Rent on the site next door, said: “We can confirm our plans for Evelyn House have not been affected. We’re still planning to deliver 67 homes with work due to start by the end of the year.”

Just north of Eastmoor Street, plans for more ​​than 1,200 homes at Herringham Road were approved in March on the casting vote of Stephen Brain, the former chair of planning, despite a warning of “nauseous” smells from the Tarmac plant next door.

But plans for a school fell through during the summer when the Department for Education pulled out of plans to buy part of an industrial estate on Anchor & Hope Lane, citing reduced demand.


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