Travelodge plans new hotel for Woolwich Road wasteland

The proposed development viewed from Woolwich Road, with the Greenwich Shopping Park behind it

Hotel chain Travelodge is hoping to open a hotel on the vacant land between Woolwich Road and the Greenwich Shopping Park.

Greenwich Council has received a planning application proposing a 120-bed hotel on the site, opposite the junction with Victoria Way, along with a food store and cafe.

The land has been empty for a decade following the demolition of a retail and industrial estate on the site, which had been earmarked for use in the Greenwich Waterfront Transit scheme, scrapped by Boris Johnson in 2009.

Developers say the project will create up to 126 jobs, and will also help boost local pubs and restaurants.

The scheme is backed by the owners of the Greenwich Shopping Park, and completes their development, with the cafe aimed at its customers.

It also takes advantage of a reorganisation in planning permissions for some of Charlton’s big retail barns, some of which are now nearly 30 years old and approaching the end of their lives.

The food store will replace the Lidl on Bugsbys Way, and would be run by “a local convenience store operator”.

Lidl’s building, which dates back to the mid-1980s, will be replaced with a new Wickes DIY store, which will move from its present site on Gallions Road.

The proposed Travelodge – looking west along Woolwich Road, with Greenwich Shopping Park on the left

We’ve rummaged in the wasteland here before – last year Matt wrote about plans for the site next door, where outline planning permission was given last year for a retail, business and residential development on the site of the long-shut MFI store, one of the area’s first retail barns. With a hotel set for the site, those thoughts about cafe culture on the Woolwich Road might not seem so fanciful now…

But what do you think of the plans? Full details are on Greenwich Council’s planning website, and neighbours have already had notes through their doors.

I’ve already had a few people contact me about this – some delighted to see something happening, some horrified with the design. I’ve created a poll – and don’t forget the comments below.

Council takes action over rubbish at Charlton station

Greenwich Council has served an enforcement notice against Network Rail over rubbish left at the entrances to Charlton station, the Charlton Rail Users Group heard last week.

Rats have been seen scurrying around the station, after the rail company failed to clean up fast food debris and other rubbish thrown in the bushes.

Network Rail is responsible for the areas around the station – including the area covered by canopies next to the 486 bus stop – while Southeastern is responsible for the station itself.

Neighbours of other stations down the Greenwich line have also reported problems with rubbish left on linesides.

London Travelwatch’s Tim Bellenger told the group’s meeting the company often only cleans up rubbish after councils or individuals threaten legal action.

Other issues dealt with at the meeting:

– The Olympic timetable cuts – see 853 for more.

– Southeastern plans to repaint Charlton station to “create a more friendly environment”, while mobile staff are being recruited to look after platform areas at Charlton and neighbouring stations.

– The problem of five-car trains stopping at the far end of the London-bound platform was raised. Again. Southeastern’s operations manager had investigated and said all was working properly, and that customer information screens would report on how long each train was. However, it was pointed out from the floor that the screens haven’t shown this information for 18 months.

– The lift onto the London-bound platform, opened with great fanfare in 1999, now has to be operated by staff for safety reasons.

The group’s next public meeting is likely to be in the autumn. For more information, e-mail CRUG [at] pmcentre.dircon.co.uk.

Charlton Lane level crossing closure


A strange sight on Sunday – the level crossing on Charlton Lane dug up and lying in piles on the road. There wasn’t anyone working there the two times I passed the crossing, so I couldn’t work out whether it was being replaced, or something else was going on.

More intriguingly, Network Rail said last month it would inspect the track through the tunnel next to the level crossing to check for evidence of part of an old chalk mine thought to be beneath the track. With the line closed on the last two Sundays, I wonder if those checks have been carried out?

Stage crew needed!

The Alexandra Players, Charlton’s amateur theatre group, is performing Neville’s Island by Tim Firth on 2-4 June 2011. A few people are still needed to help out back stage, so if you’d like to get to know some new people, or learn a new skill, or just get out of the house twice a week, why not get involved? No prior experience needed! We particularly require:

  • stage crew, to set the stage between scenes (make sure props are in the right place etc), operate smoke machine and operate a light backstage
  • someone able to make a few props that are needed, most importantly a dead bird (if you want to know why we need that, come and see the play!)

We are always looking for people to help with non-theatrical roles such as manning the door, selling programmes etc.

If any of this sounds your sort of thing, you can get in touch on alexandraplayers@gmail.com .

Tickets for the show itself are on sale now, at £6. shows start at 8pm and are in the Alexandra Hall, next to the URC church on Bramshot Avenue, SE7. To book, send an email with your name, how many tickets you want and which night you want them for and they will be available for you on the door.

Open weekend at ‘secret’ art studios

The flyer below says it all – the Second Floor Studios complex, at the end of Warspite Road on the Charlton/Woolwich border, is opening up its doors tonight and across the weekend to show off its wares to art fans, artists and neighbours…

The whole project’s an interesting one – a plan to develop 280 studios together with a gallery and cafe on the old industrial site. It’s tucked away out of sight now, but when the riverside walk is finally finished between the Thames Barrier and Woolwich Dockyard, it could be quite a landmark. More on this soon, I hope.

A fantastic season for Charlton…

photo courtesy of CPRFU

Okay, okay I’m not talking about our beloved football club who’ve had their worst season since 1974. I am in fact talking about the other team from SE7, Charlton Park Rugby Club. Okay they’re not quite in SE7 are they? They’re in fact over in Kidbrooke SE3….but they’ve got the right name haven’t they?

Yes Charlton Park are genuine winners this season finishing second in the Southeast London 3 Division and getting themselves promoted. The RFU brought in new rules at the start of the season to award one additional match point for either scoring four tries or losing by seven points or less. This actually means under last season’s rules Charlton Park would have been clear winners.  But regardless of this, Charlton Park will be playing in the second division next season at level seven of the national pyramid. I chatted to club secretary Andy Potts:

“You never know when you go up. We were playing some quite good rugby at the end of the year. We hope if we keep those players together we might do quite well in the league above.”

He went on to explain the ideology of this amateur club. “We don’t pay [our players] – we don’t think the membership would let us! We’re a fairly proud social club”.

They don’t expect the spectators to pay either as its free to watch and I’m told the amenities include a bar and some pretty decent grub. If rugby’s not your game then the clubhouse also has a squash court and a gym available to members and the bar is available to hire for weddings, parties etc.

Here’s the full interview with Andy Potts – let’s hope they can continue their success next season.

Discuss Olympic rail cuts plan on Monday

The Charlton Rail Users Group will meet on Monday at 7pm at Charlton Liberal Club. Representatives from Southeastern, London Travelwatch, Transport for London and Greenwich Council will be there to discuss issues including the cleanliness of the station (I spotted a rat there recently), how easy it is to access other forms of transport (including the “dance of death“) and the issue of having to leg it up the platform if a five-car train arrives.

Also under discussion will be the planned Olympics service cuts – you might like to see the group’s response.

The Charlton Rail Users Group would like to object in the strongest possible terms to the proposed Greenwich line timetable during the 2012 Olympics.

While we appreciate Southeastern needs to run a simple service during a period of high demand, we feel the current service, strengthened with longer trains, will be able to cope. Charlton station has coped well with Premier League crowds of over 27,000 for football matches – it is only when the service is reduced things go wrong. Indeed, Charlton was more than able to cope with Millennium Dome traffic during 2000, although most visitors used North Greenwich..

It appears to us that dropping station calls and closing Woolwich Dockyard has more to do with reducing the risk of Southeastern incurring financial penalties for late running than making the service easier for passengers to use.

Anything less than a normal service will confuse and inconvenience regular passengers, who will find alternative forms of travel – particularly the Jubilee Line – also affected by Olympic traffic. During this period, we should be able to rely on a full train service, and not face arbitary cuts. With North Greenwich station expected to be more difficult to access, Southeastern’s customers in this area will depend on these services more than usual.

London 2012’s organisers have promised a car-free Games – your proposal seems designed to achieve the opposite. Indeed, the secrecy surrounding your proposals – with no mention of them on the Southeastern website – leaves a lot to be desired, especially from a company which already has a poor reputation for communication.

1) Proposal to stop Charing X-Lewisham-Gillingham trains calling at Charlton
It seems utterly perverse to reduce the number of trains calling at Charlton when it is being publicised as a stop for the North Greenwich Arena. Similarly, it will inconvenience passengers from north Kent and the Medway Towns planning to visit Olympic events there – people who need persuading to leave their cars at home.

2) Proposal to cut train services at Westcombe Park and close Woolwich Dockyard
Again, this is perverse and seems designed to protect Southeastern against financial loss rather than provide the best possible service to passengers. Displaced passengers will switch to Charlton, putting pressure on services you plan to reduce.

3) General proposals for stations on the Greenwich line and nearby
Cutting station stops on the Greenwich line and at Kidbrooke will only force people to seek alternatives during the Olympics. The Greenwich and Charlton area will be particularly badly affected by the Games, with Jubilee Line use made difficult by Olympic crowds and road capacity reduced by the Olympic Route Network. The only way to achieve a car-free Games will be to ensure ordinary Londoners can get around during the Olympics by running a full service, with longer trains, from first train to last – not to cut rail services as you propose.