IKEA’s plans for Bugsby’s Way: public exhibition, 9th November

IKEA's ad in the Greenwich Time

IKEA have taken out an advert in Greenwich Time (29th Oct) to publicise their plans.

Everyone’s favourite place for a weekend argument could be coming to our doorstep soon, as IKEA have designs on the plot left behind by Sainsbury’s once they move up the road to Charlton.

Local reaction at the Greenwich Phantom and Greenwich.co.uk is already quite polarised: while many of us are fans of Swedish meatballs and flat-pack Billy shelves, there are real concerns about whether our area can cope with the additional traffic that a massive furniture store might bring. IKEA’s page which deals with the proposal suggests that the new store would be “[their] most accessible store in the UK for customers visiting by public transport” but it’s worth considering whether your normal IKEA purchases could fit on the 486 to get them home.

IKEA have not yet submitted planning permission for the site, and say they’d like to hear the views of local residents before they do. Your chance to put your views forward – whether they be pro-furniture or anti-traffic – is Saturday 9 November 2013 12.00pm – 7.00pm at Sherard Hall, The Forum @ Greenwich, Trafalgar Road, SE10 9EQ. IKEA say that “representatives from the project team will be at the exhibition to explain the proposal and answer any questions.”

While the proposed store might lie just outside our patch, the traffic it attracts might not. If you’re concerned, this is a good chance to put your point of view across. What do you think? Let us know in the comments.

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12 Responses to IKEA’s plans for Bugsby’s Way: public exhibition, 9th November

  1. Chris says:

    We’ve been sent a letter by them publicising the meeting and also giving phone numbers and e-mail addresses for us to communicate with them about their plans.
    I would say this is a good start bearing in mind the way some developments around here seem to just forge ahead regardless.
    Obviously, as you say, shoving a wardrobe, even in a flatpack. onto the 108 is going to be impractical. The ‘public transport’ argument is a complete red herring.

    • Roy Tindle says:

      Public transport is possible; I have bought from IKEA and paid for delivery. I wanted, first, to see, to examine but paid for delivery as the items were both heavy and bulky. I did, though, drive to Lakeside because the journey would be long, by public transport. Surely, having a local IKEA should cut a lot of greater distance journeys and so cut emissions. It’s not just about ‘my back yard’.

      • Philip says:

        Yes, Roy’s right. We used to live down the tramlines from the one near Croydon and found that visiting to see what you wanted and then having them deliver worked exceptionally well. Thus, the public transport argument is about driving IN punters and not about driving out product.

  2. adam says:

    Very worried that a highways infrastructure currently at stretching point will fail to cope with the additional traffic an Ikea will bring. How will the associated pollution be dealt with? The council have had plenty of time to consider the implications, Ikea have been looking at the opportunity for years and would not have done so without at least tacit support and input from the council.

  3. Chris says:

    Roy, I’m not being Nimby, I won’t be using the place. Hate it!

    But the traffic will be a huge problem unless addressed. What percentage of people will be using public transport to get there? Very few I think, despite your admirable example.

  4. clogsilk says:

    Yes, it might well stop people travelling to Croydon, but it will undoubtedly mean more journeys to the peninsula, some of which will presumably come through the Blackwall Tunnel, already a traffic nightmare. And I can’t imagine having an Ikea next door will be great for B&Q, or the cinema/restaurants.

  5. Angela says:

    Yes Ikea will be good for this area, as people will also spend more in B&Q And other outlets when they travel to Charlton, think how busy Lakeside is!!

  6. Interesting piece here about the eco-store facing demolition after only 15 tears.

    https://www.2degreesnetwork.com/groups/built-environment/resources/sainsburys-pioneering-eco-store-redefined-supermarket-design-and-was-hugely-popular-with-customers-so-why-after-less-than-15-years-it-facing-demolition/

    Basically it makes the point that demolishing the store now to rebuild makes a complete joke of it’s 15 years being Eco. The carbon footprint of knocking it down and rebuilding will be far far bigger than the carbon footprint saved by its various eco-devices over a decade and a half. Madness.

    Why not let another food store take it over so that the building can remain?

    The proposed Ikea there will be a MASSIVE building – as tall as the Odeon cinema and six times as wide.

  7. Rejory says:

    Interesting article from a very passionate architect who was involved in the long process of creating that groundbreaking store.
    I have to say I agree with him that the building is unique and perfectly usable as it is.
    To demolish a 15 year old award winning structure to make way for a massive IKEA cube doesn’t make sense.
    As for the transport issues… where to begin!
    The Woolwich Road junction is a mess at the best of times. Traffic and pollution will be multiplied greatly. The council really missed a trick with the Greenwich Waterfront Transit scheme which was proposed but not implemented – a very short sighted approach. There was not the development to justify the scheme at the time whereas now there is, it seems it’s too late to shoehorn it in afterwards…
    http://www.tfl.gov.uk/static/corporate/media/newscentre/archive/4043.html

  8. Chris says:

    The architect has started a petition here so if you object you might as well add your name.

    http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/stopikea

  9. Gabriella says:

    This current Sainsbury leaks when it rains. I feel an IKEA is appropriate. Yes there are traffic concerns but, use public transport and then get it delivered. The junction isn’t perfect but all those jobs even low paid will be a boon to people who are either long term unemployed or unemployed.

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